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    ChemE
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    Nuclear Survival

    Post by ChemE on 3rd November 2009, 7:36 pm

    A 1 Megaton Nuclear Device was exploded in the upper atmosphere north west of College Station, the resulting EMP damage has destroyed most electronics with long straight wire. The same magnetic wave generated massive current overloads in all telephone and electrical wires, overpower the grid shutting it down. No help will come for 6 months. You had a 30 minute head start before this event occurred. What are your actions for the first 30 minutes.
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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by ThePreserver on 3rd November 2009, 7:45 pm

    Ironically the Rio Grande Valley is experiencing sporadic Tmobile network issues. Thank god I dont have their service.

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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by Ralph on 3rd November 2009, 7:46 pm

    love the fact you included a lsw are you in phys 208?
    anyway we'd be screwed so just enjoy whats left, even if we happened to have a private jet to escape that it would be nearly impossible to get out of range of the fall out
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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by ChemE on 3rd November 2009, 7:50 pm

    hm, well you could snag some KI for your thyroid, and A&M does have multiple fallout shelters. Also the nearby ranching communities will be beneficial.

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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by Ralph on 3rd November 2009, 8:19 pm

    i doubt the fall out shelters are equipped currently to handle life for any longer than a day or two if even equipped at all
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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by redneck_rebel on 3rd November 2009, 9:26 pm

    lol you all should so what i did by your own military gas mask lol

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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by Ralph on 4th November 2009, 1:30 am

    a gas mask would not help you in anyway but give you clean air, fall out would still kill you
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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by ChemE on 4th November 2009, 1:49 am

    No, the shelters are not in a condition to be used, and they are bolted shut. But potassium iodide would be helpful to obtain for the first 2 weeks of fallout.
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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by ThePreserver on 4th November 2009, 2:37 am

    Hmm...guess I should stock up on potassium iodide then /sarcasm. Is it true that Twinkies can withstand radiation? Or was that Family Guy episode a load of joke? lol

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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by Ralph on 4th November 2009, 2:44 am

    ............. that was a joke.... lol although many bugs can withstand more radiation than us
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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by redneck_rebel on 4th November 2009, 3:08 am

    oh sorry didnt know we were talking fall out rather than just a nuke or what have

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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by Ralph on 4th November 2009, 4:06 am

    any time there is a nuke, fall out will happen, massive amounts of radiation will be spread out from the nuke
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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by Mr.Shyguy on 4th November 2009, 10:01 am

    short and to the point : your are better off dead lol all emo
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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by ChemE on 4th November 2009, 2:54 pm

    Actually not all nukes create fallout, fallout is merely the radioactive 'cloud' of dirt that is kicked into the air. fallout will go away eventually, some of it is short lived some is long lived. twinkies do not last forever, this can be verified by looking at the product dates on them in the store, they are always fresh. Also it takes 100 rads to start to do serious damage, and 500 for a verified kill. so as long as you are exposed to under 100 rads per day, approximately, you should do almost alright, however, in five days you would be exposed to a kill amount. This is why a dosimeter is more useful than a geiger counter.

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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by Ralph on 4th November 2009, 3:18 pm

    im sure if somebody had the motive to launch a nuclear detonator toward an inhabited area they would launch one powerful enough to create significant fall out. although college station would not be a practical place to strike, somewhere along the lines of Houston would be better, although we would have to get out CS real fast in order to avoid being significantly hurt.
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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by ChemE on 4th November 2009, 3:46 pm

    A major component then would be what were the motives, if it was to destroy the US, then they would launch it high in the atmosphere for a large EMP, destroying all electronics, but those protected by Faraday cages. If they wanted to cause damage and fear, or if they couldn't launch high enough to do EMP damage then they would be low enough to cause fallout damage. Houston would be a better target as shown here
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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by ChemE on 4th November 2009, 3:46 pm

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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by ThePreserver on 4th November 2009, 6:11 pm

    Awesome, so a faraday cage would protect equipment from an EMP? Big grin

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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by Ralph on 4th November 2009, 6:26 pm

    ThePreserver wrote:Awesome, so a faraday cage would protect equipment from an EMP? Big grin
    pretty much and seclude you from outside radio interference and communication
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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by ChemE on 4th November 2009, 7:32 pm

    As long as you had some sort of reverse current fuse for your solar panels you would be all set.

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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by Ralph on 4th November 2009, 8:53 pm

    until you run out of uncontaminated water

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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by Miluaces on 4th November 2009, 11:57 pm

    Imagine if all the canned foods were burst open... You would have to travel to an area out of the blast range to find food and even a safe zone.

    I don't imagine there would be monsters,(Look at Hiroshima, no monsters) but better safe than sorry, eh?
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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by ThePreserver on 5th November 2009, 12:29 am

    I like your signature Miluaces, lol! So umm...would it be possible to fix vehicles to get them working in case of nuclear fallout? In the movie War of the Worlds, the EMP triggered was thwarted when the solenoid was changed in the car. Yes yes I know, it was only a movie...but is it possible to fix a vehicle on the edge of the blast radius? Or would the radiation simply have cooked the internals?

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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by Ralph on 5th November 2009, 2:27 am

    if it wasn't close enough to be melted by extreme heat, then it would be fixable but with alot of work and knowledge of cars.
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    Re: Nuclear Survival

    Post by ChemE on 5th November 2009, 1:06 pm

    I propose a project, we should figure out what will break in a car if an EMP goes off, and then figure out how to fix it.

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