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    Missile Tracking System?

    Post by ChemE on 3rd November 2009, 3:16 pm

    What are the current possibilities for tracking a missile?

    Here are some;

    Heat, Motion, RF tracking
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    Re: Missile Tracking System?

    Post by redneck_rebel on 3rd November 2009, 3:37 pm

    umm im not sure but isnt tracking a military missile a federal offense?

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    Re: Missile Tracking System?

    Post by Ralph on 3rd November 2009, 3:51 pm

    redneck_rebel wrote:umm im not sure but isnt tracking a military missile a federal offense?
    he never said military, but what would be the need of such a thing
    I believe radar is used more commonly
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    Post by ChemE on 3rd November 2009, 3:56 pm

    well, I think it is. however It is more of a proof of concept design that can be used for model rockets, and expanded for other academic projects. I am trying to brainstorm to get ideas for a project I might do in 1 year or two.

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    Re: Missile Tracking System?

    Post by Ralph on 3rd November 2009, 3:57 pm

    aah! model rockets!! i haven't worked with those in quite a while. I'm sure you can find some sort of tracking system commercially for model rockets, it would probably just take a google.
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    Re: Missile Tracking System?

    Post by ChemE on 3rd November 2009, 4:03 pm

    gah... not something you can buy off the shelf, but something built on your own. Also, missile tracking and destroying is hard to do. That is why Star Wars failed. however this link here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt2qaTfT8QY is the MTHL system, which also is one of the first to be able to defend against enemy mortar fire, for the first time in history.
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    Post by ThePreserver on 3rd November 2009, 4:05 pm

    I think lasers can be used to track missles if it's already locked on them. For instance, that's how radar guns work don't they? By measuring distance and whatnot?
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    Post by ChemE on 3rd November 2009, 4:09 pm

    I am not sure about tracking missiles with lasers, but destroying them with lasers is extremely convenient, since they move at the speed of light. However that missile system MTHL, used to take up a huge semi truck worth of electrical components. What is not shown in the video is the tracking system, which besides being a highly protected secret, is a massive structure, when compared to the weapon itself.
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    Post by redneck_rebel on 3rd November 2009, 9:16 pm

    well if you got a nice budget how bout a gps lol
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    Re: Missile Tracking System?

    Post by ThePreserver on 4th November 2009, 12:17 am

    I'm surprised nobody suggested GPS...btw GPS chips aren't that expensive Winking. But I would lean towards the ideology that missles already come with GPS chips in the event of being tracked.
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    Post by redneck_rebel on 4th November 2009, 12:29 am

    i suggested the gps because most of your military missile such and the long range tomahawk missile and the javelin ( a shoulder fired rocket launcher) all use a gps system
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    Post by ChemE on 4th November 2009, 1:55 am

    An interesting aspect about commercially obtainable GPS's is they stop working at speeds close to missile range. This is part of their design, to prevent a a third party from using off the shelf components to build a missile tracking system. However, when I said missile tracking originally I actually meant a missile detecting system.
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    Post by Mr.Shyguy on 4th November 2009, 10:04 am

    you all crazy peoples and no gps chips are not expencive if 30000000000 dollars is chump change for you jk i dont know

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    Re: Missile Tracking System?

    Post by Ralph on 4th November 2009, 10:17 am

    if you didn't know why did you post???
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    Re: Missile Tracking System?

    Post by Mr.Shyguy on 4th November 2009, 10:49 am

    well if its beneficial to know then fine gps will work but if its allready been fired then your $*@t out of luck you are looking at a deadly hunk of metal with some type of explosive on it going faster then the speed of sound sooo yeah in the words of Morbo: "there Were No survivors."
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    Post by Mr.Shyguy on 4th November 2009, 11:23 am

    furthermore if its an enemy missile how would you put a gps on it! the only reasonable way to avoid a missile would be a very long range radar
    but think about it this missile is traveling faster than the speed of sound and the radar would not even see the damn thing coming if the sweep is slow
    the speed of sound is 340.29 m/s <speed of Missile you better hope that he is very far away and How would lasers work here i am not doubting it i just dont see how it works


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    Re: Missile Tracking System?

    Post by Ralph on 4th November 2009, 12:36 pm

    1. we ruled out gps like 234134501347 posts ago
    2. you seem like you have no idea what your saying on this subject
    3. Google is your best friend, use it and get some actual facts
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    Re: Missile Tracking System?

    Post by Mr.Shyguy on 4th November 2009, 1:46 pm

    i did actually 340.29 m/s is the speed of sound above sea level. the speed of sound varies depending on the humidity of the air. different formulas for different scenarios and yes i know that Google is your best friend i just started using gmail its great better than yahoo ... sorry if it sounds like i am mad
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    Re: Missile Tracking System?

    Post by ChemE on 4th November 2009, 3:03 pm

    The point is not a sound, when you suggested gps, I thought you were talking about signal analysis to track an enemy gps system, unless it was set to passive or silent mode. Also, after the launch coordinates are given to the missile there should be no reason for it to need a gps anymore, unless they want to be able to stop the missile in flight or change its detenation site. Radar travels at the speed of light, however they require to be directioned at a target which takes time to sweep, but still better than nothing.
    A missiles creates a huge rf image, because of that radar is good. but when missiles start being made of plastic they will cease to have this wonderful image. We could still track by heat, since that like most other waves in the EM spectrum travel at the speed of light. I am still trying to think of other ways to track missiles.
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    Re: Missile Tracking System?

    Post by Mr.Shyguy on 5th November 2009, 9:49 am

    i see well dont yuo know your stuff i stand corrected

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